Making My Ford Autolite 4100 Carburetor Look New Again
Autolite 4100 vs old Holley 4100 carb
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Autolite 4100 vs one-time Holley 4100 carb
Howdy all,
I take a 62 convertible that has a newer Holley carb. While my car will never be a evidence auto or 100% original, I like keep the automobile or make the car original as possible. This includes going back to the original carb blueprint.
In shopping for a replacement Autolite 4100 C2SF carb I take run beyond Holley 4100 C2SE carbs. They look nearly identical.
And then the questions are, did these cars besides come with Holley carbs? What's the difference in the ii? And would a Holley carb still be considered original equipment?
I've plant many posting comparing the Autolite 4100 to a new Holley but no discussions on the Holley '4100' C2SE carb.
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Ken
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Re: Autolite 4100 vs old Holley 4100 carb
I had no luck with my original autolite carb. When I could not relieve it I put a Holley on. It was ok. I ended up
Purchasing another autolite from rock motorcar. Car never ran better. I don't believe Holley was manufacturing plant function on your car.
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Re: Autolite 4100 vs onetime Holley 4100 carb
Ken,
The simply 4 bbl carburetor supplied on all '62 Z Code engines was the standard Autolite 4100. 3 two barrel Holley carbs were standard on the M Lawmaking engines.
I've never seen a "Holley 4100 C2SE" carburetor and can't find whatever reference when referencing Mr. Google. Tin can you provide a link to that information?
The Autolite 4100, when rebuilt properly, provides first-class running and operation characteristics, but as they did when these cars were new. I know lots of folks accept installed Holley and Edelbrock units in a quest for better performance, but I've ever had good luck with my original Autolites. I'g likewise "a fiddling" OCD when it comes to originality.
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Re: Autolite 4100 vs old Holley 4100 carb
Hey Jim
Cheers for the quick respond. If y'all search ebay today for Autolite C2SE you will discover a couple and they reference Holley. Non that I have a lot of religion in sellers' knowlwdge, which is why I'g here trying to go real info. However, in that location many other years, and models abreast S, that have the E suffix instead of the F. My understanding is these should all exist F. Simply looking at the tags the testify Fomoco and E. Hence my confusion.
Ken
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Re: Autolite 4100 vs onetime Holley 4100 carb
Thanks for anybody that has taken the time to reply.
I estimate if I eddy it down what I really need to know is if the C2SE is considered original equipment as opposed to a C2SF which nosotros all know is? Information technology looks identical and has the same rebuild parts.
I have a long style to go but I'm working on my OCD badge.
Thanks
Ken
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Re: Autolite 4100 vs quondam Holley 4100 carb
Hey all,
One last try before i sink some money into a used 4100 carb to rebuild. Does anyone know if the C2SE carb is considered original equipment on a 62 convertible? Most everything is come across ends in F such as C2SF. They employ the aforementioned kit and look pretty much identical?
As always, cheers to everyone for their help. This guild has always been helpful.
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Re: Autolite 4100 vs old Holley 4100 carb
Hey all,
1 last endeavour before i sink some money into a used 4100 carb to rebuild. Does anyone know if the C2SE carb is considered original equipment on a 62 convertible? Almost everything is see ends in F such as C2SF. They use the same kit and expect pretty much identical?
As e'er, thanks to anybody for their help. This club has always been helpful.
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Re: Autolite 4100 vs quondam Holley 4100 carb
I'k wagering y'all don't have a copy of VTCI's 1961-63 Original Manufactory Specifications manual? If you lot did you'd run across that you as well need the letter that follows the 4-letter of the alphabet prefix. There'due south a C2SF-A, C2SF-B, C2SF-C and C2SE-C: the difference is the C2SF-A and C2SE-C didn't have the magnet on the air horn to hold the choke plate shut. In short, yes they were OEM on your car: question is do you lot have a magnet fastened to your carb?
Don't let the E and F characters brand you overthink this. And become a copy of the OFS manual. You'll give thanks me later...
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Re: Autolite 4100 vs old Holley 4100 carb
Alan-
Thank you very much for the information and instruction. I've been a member for nigh 2 years at present and have seen you recommend the OFS manual at to the lowest degree a hundred times. I could have saved myself days worth of research and bothering people here if I had the OFS manual. Well its been ordered. I appreciate the gentle kick in the butt. Can't wait to see what else I can observe in it.
BTW, where do I find my member #? Information technology asked me on the social club form but tin't detect information technology anywhere. Maybe I should expect in the OFS when it comes. LOL!
And since this is a C2SE-c I would venture to guess I exercise non have the magnet. Withal, I also don't know what I am looking for. Do you accept a moving-picture show of what it looks similar?
Thanks,
Ken
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Re: Autolite 4100 vs old Holley 4100 carb
Do you accept a picture of your carb you can mail? Make sure to also get a close-up of the commuter'south side front "foot" to see the numbers stamped in the base of operations and a film of the metal carb tag if it'south still in that location for positive ID.
Your membership number should exist on the envelope your Scoop magazine comes in. Otherwise contact the Secretarial assistant from the links on the website dwelling page.
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Alan H. Tast, AIA
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Re: Autolite 4100 vs quondam Holley 4100 carb
Closing the loop on this mail service.
Cliff, I took your advice and purchased the Autolite equally mentioned in my last thread almost a year ago. I rebuilt it over the winter and installed it final month. Life gets in the way sometimes and things don't go done as soon as y'all want them to.
Alan, thank you again for the info. I did end upward getting the right carb for my vintage car. At least I'm pretty confident I did.
Bottom line, since I've owned the auto information technology hasn't run better. The acceleration is awsome and it sounds like a different car. I drove through a cruise in terminal weekend and someone commented how great the car sounded. Made my day.
Ken
1962 Corinthian white convertible
Past birds
1977 Boondocks Landau
1978 t-top
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